I Need a Lathe

Pole Lathe

I found myself reviewing future projects that I want to do and on so many I’ve found some woodturning is. That’s an issue for me, I don’t own a lathe and I’ve never turned a thing. The most sensible thing to do would be make the project anyway and ask a local tuner to help me when required. That’s what we do at work and it’s always worked well. However, there is a desire within me to learn how to do it for myself. Further, I want to make my own lathe powered by my own muscle. I had a look around at options which fell into two main camps: treadle or pole.

I liked the idea of a treadle, consistent speed and all that, but I was drawn more strongly to the pole lathe. The rhythm of a pole lathe and its humbleness really do appeal. But pole lathes are for green wood, right? Well they do a fine job of that but they don’t have to be confined to that medium. Enter the Roubo pole lathe. As with many of Roubo’s drawings, there is a solidity that brings a robust beauty to his designs and the lathe is no exception. Four thumb x Four thumb is the order of the day to create a very sturdy platform. (A “thumb,” according to “To Make as Perfectly as Possible” (Lost Art Press) equals 1.066 Imperial inches.)

Roubo clearly describes this as a lathe for all woodworkers and there are appliances that can be added to broaden its use beyond the format shown above. However, the above image is what’s I’ll start with and it should see me right for most of my needs.

There are two main issues concerning me, although I’m sure many more will present themselves. The first is making the ironwork for the poppets. I thought I could improvise here but thought better and discussed the project Jim Hendricks of KT Productions, who has kindly agreed to help with the metal side of things. Jim is a hugely talented person and I’d recommend following his tool-making journey, I’ve found him to be very inspiring.

The second was actually how to use the thing if it ever gets that far. Luckily for me a skilled user of the pole lathe lives in my county. Sean Hellman demonstrated turning kiln dried oak on his pole lathe via his YouTube channel. Watching his rhythm and results assured me he was the person I was looking for, and as long as I can make the lathe properly I know a day spent with him will be an investment. We’ve loosely suggested a date next year which leads me onto when.

I have an aspiration to have the lathe finished by the middle of next year and I’ll be sharing my journey, so to speak, here. This is something I would very much welcome feedback from readers. If anyone has experience of turning on or making this style of pole lathe please do leave a comment with your tips. They will be appreciated!

— Graham Haydon

Thanks to Lost Art Press for the image above, a detail from Plate 309 in “André Roubo’s The Book of Plates.”

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About Graham Haydon

Graham Haydon is a Joiner based in the UK, working in the same woodworking business his great grandfather started in 1926 alongside his father, brother and a small team of craftspeople. The business makes custom architectural joinery, simple furniture and custom kitchens along with a variety of other woodworking projects. He served an apprenticeship in both Joinery and Carpentry and also gained a National Certificate in Building Studies. During his spare time he enjoys woodworking mainly with hand tools.

28 thoughts on “I Need a Lathe

  1. grg3

    I enjoy Harry Rogers YouTube posts on Pole Lathes and accounts of Bodger meets. I built a modifed version of his “Rapid Pole Lathe”. Check out his other lathe videos for other build ideas.

    I did a double top rail rather than a single one. It worked OK, but I may add centers like Shannon used at Renaissance Woodworker. The best part about the rapid build is it is easily collapsed for storage and the height is very adjustable.

    1. Graham HaydonGraham Haydon Post author

      Thanks grg3, I’ll take a look at Harry Rogers and Shannon does have some good stuff too.

      Best

      G

  2. Brentpmed

    Graham,
    I would suggest building the spring pole lathe St. Roy describes. It is an easy build, couple of days at most, inexpensive materials and it breaks down for storage or transport. It would be a good exercise in developing pole lathe skills while you work on the Roubo version. I am learning a lot on my spring pole lathe. I built mine for some of the very same reasons you are wanting to build…upcoming projects requiring turned pieces, never turned before, not yet sure I want or need a power lathe, and saved a ton of money vs buying a power lathe. When mine is not in use, I knock it down and store it in a small area next to my wood rack. Think about giving it a try.

    Brent

    1. Graham HaydonGraham Haydon Post author

      Hi Brent

      I think that would be a very sensible idea. It does sound like our motivations are very similar. Reading through Roubo’s work it is possible to knock this down as well. The long rails can be fixed with what are in effect handrail bolts. I will give your suggestion some serious thought though. I think my biggest issue will be learning to use the thing although locally there is good tuition I can tap into. Happy turning!

      Best

      G

  3. McDara

    Graham, I have spent many years pumping on a pole (or bow) lathe. There are a few things on the above illustration that I would not copy. Please let me know if I can be of any assistance. (Megan has all my contact info)

    1. Graham HaydonGraham Haydon Post author

      Thanks rusty old engine,

      I’m sure the working rhythm with Mr Underhill’s pole lathe will be similar. The Roubo version has a bit more mass, it’ll be interesting to see how they contrast. Thanks for the comment.

      Best

      G

  4. Bill Lattanzio

    I like the idea of a treadle lathe, but it would take up way too much space to even consider having one. One day I would like to give turning a serious try, but it would have to be with an electric, bench-top model.

    1. Graham HaydonGraham Haydon Post author

      Hi Bill

      I was tempted by a bench top style lathe, it would most likely be the best choice. Space is potentially an issue for many as the lathe is about six feet although smaller versions are discussed. I’m looking forward to getting my head around it all. Thanks for the comment.

      Best

      G

    2. d_lamb@shaw.ca

      Hi Bill,
      Why not make a benchtop pole lathe? If you were to make the bed as per Roubo (or Mr. Underhill’s design) and clamp it to your bench like the Moxon vise, I would think you would have the best of both worlds then…a foot-powered lathe that was easily storable, and would use your bench for mass. I’ve never seen anything like that in all my online searches, but I can’t see why it wouldn’t work…put the cord through a bench-dog hole…?

  5. sandalwoods

    This will be interesting, Graham. Looking forward to the episodes. Of course, Megan could always go and help with the build.

    Bob Easton’s lathe seems to do everything he asks of it, and more.

    Al

    1. Graham HaydonGraham Haydon Post author

      Thanks sadalwoods,

      It’ll be a steep learning curve for me, that much is certain.

      Best

      G

      1. bobjones2000

        I’m interested in the same lathe. With the help of friends online and google translate, I posted a translation of the original text from Roubo on my blog. It’s thechristiantoolcabinet at wordpress. I think you can google roubo lathe and my site is near the top of the list.
        I know of at least one person using such a lathe the the USA. I posted an interview with him too. I hope the info helps you.

        1. Graham HaydonGraham Haydon Post author

          Hello bobjones2000

          I did indeed find your site and the photo of the lathe in use during the 1980’s. As I was born in the 80’s it made me smile. I found your site helpful and Mr Mickley’s experiences with the lathe was one of the reasons I wanted to have a go. It would be good to her his thoughts, nothing beats good experience! Thanks for the comment.

          Cheers

          G

  6. jimi43

    Looking forward to working with you Graham…

    Fancy a visit up to beautiful North Devon….somewhere for ALFIE to run around!!

    Cheers mate

    Jimi

    1. Graham HaydonGraham Haydon Post author

      The pleasure will be all mine Jim, I should also make the trip out of my County

      Best

      G

  7. bob_easton

    If you change your mind about pole vs. treadle, here’s my treadle lathe.

    All of the blacksmiths in my area ran for the hills long ago, so I used a few modern bits in certain areas. Yet, the rest of the lathe is from an early 19th century design.

    Follow the link for 25 posts (more or less) about building a treadle lathe and some of the things I’ve done with it.
    http://www.bob-easton.com/blog/category/treadle-lathe/

    1. Graham HaydonGraham Haydon Post author

      Hi Bob

      Thanks for the link, I also checked out your site when making my workbench. Top work!

      Best

      G

    1. Graham HaydonGraham Haydon Post author

      Hi clockman

      Shannon has a ton of good stuff on his site, thanks for the link.

      Best

      G

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