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> <channel><title>Comments on: Why Do This Crap By Hand?</title> <atom:link href="http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/chris-schwarz-blog/why-do-this-crap-by-hand/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/chris-schwarz-blog/why-do-this-crap-by-hand</link> <description>Woodworking advice, woodworking plans, woodworking projects and woodworking blogs</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 13:56:03 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1</generator> <item><title>By: Greg Nehls</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/chris-schwarz-blog/why-do-this-crap-by-hand/comment-page-2#comment-10989</link> <dc:creator>Greg Nehls</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:41:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blog.woodworking-magazine.com/blog/Why+Do+This+Crap+By+Hand.aspx#comment-10989</guid> <description><![CDATA[Having been without a shop the last six months and soon to be getting my own shop here at the house. Has given me the time to re-evaluate my woodworking skills and methods of work. The use of hand tools has taken a fore front in this thought process. While I have a mix of tools both hand and power. I find that many times I incorporate the two because of the tools I have on hand for the task. Since my new shop will be half of what I&#039;m accustom to, buying more machines will be limited. I have decided it is time to upgrade my hand tools and to slow down in my craft and learn new methods of work. I also start kids out with hand tools so that they know how to use these tools when the time comes that they aren&#039;t able to use a machine to get the job done. For instance if your tenon is to tight using a plane or chisel to pare down the tenon for a good fit. In this case the hand tool becomes the tool of choice because of the quickness to do the job, as opposed to re-setting the machine to pare down the tenon. For me woodworking is a lifetime of learning different aspects of woodworking, and learning to use all of my tools as proficiently as possible. Your only as good as knowing how to use the tool your using.
Greg,]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been without a shop the last six months and soon to be getting my own shop here at the house. Has given me the time to re-evaluate my woodworking skills and methods of work. The use of hand tools has taken a fore front in this thought process. While I have a mix of tools both hand and power. I find that many times I incorporate the two because of the tools I have on hand for the task. Since my new shop will be half of what I&#8217;m accustom to, buying more machines will be limited. I have decided it is time to upgrade my hand tools and to slow down in my craft and learn new methods of work. I also start kids out with hand tools so that they know how to use these tools when the time comes that they aren&#8217;t able to use a machine to get the job done. For instance if your tenon is to tight using a plane or chisel to pare down the tenon for a good fit. In this case the hand tool becomes the tool of choice because of the quickness to do the job, as opposed to re-setting the machine to pare down the tenon. For me woodworking is a lifetime of learning different aspects of woodworking, and learning to use all of my tools as proficiently as possible. Your only as good as knowing how to use the tool your using.<br
/> Greg,</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: imdrmarshall.myopenid.com</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/chris-schwarz-blog/why-do-this-crap-by-hand/comment-page-2#comment-10988</link> <dc:creator>imdrmarshall.myopenid.com</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 08:23:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blog.woodworking-magazine.com/blog/Why+Do+This+Crap+By+Hand.aspx#comment-10988</guid> <description><![CDATA[i too find the enjoyment and sense of accomplishment when working with hand tools instead of power tools. and  like Mr. Schwarz was saying, i think by doing and learning to do by way of hand tools, also teaches you things/steps of the process of completing a project that you would never learn or even notice when using strictly power tools. another way to look at it is, if you are not at least knowledgeable in the individual steps that need to be accomplished during a project, what are you gonna do if your half way through a project and one of your tools &quot;poop the bed&quot; and you have a deadline to meet, and no money to repair/replace your tool. (and lets say your a hermit and dont have a friend that can loan you the tool or $...lol)...
i am 32 but i am one of those who seem to have been born in the wrong time in history...and it is so nice to hear when someone else (especially one as talented and gifted, and also has a prominent voice in the woodworking community) has the attraction to the more traditional ways of woodworking. i am not saying that items made with power tools are &quot;inferior&quot; in any way, but there is just something comforting about knowing an item has been crafted by hand. there is definitely still something to say for the craftsmanship and love for your work and love for the actual materials that go into a &quot;hand made&quot; piece. power tool lovers please dont fret, i still am astonished, impressed, and have an incredible amount of respect for your years of dedication, hard work and shear skill..look at it as a good thing that we have these differences in the way we do things...otherwise we might as well stand on an assembly line and slap a mass producer label on our work...
thank you all for your posts]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i too find the enjoyment and sense of accomplishment when working with hand tools instead of power tools. and  like Mr. Schwarz was saying, i think by doing and learning to do by way of hand tools, also teaches you things/steps of the process of completing a project that you would never learn or even notice when using strictly power tools. another way to look at it is, if you are not at least knowledgeable in the individual steps that need to be accomplished during a project, what are you gonna do if your half way through a project and one of your tools &quot;poop the bed&quot; and you have a deadline to meet, and no money to repair/replace your tool. (and lets say your a hermit and dont have a friend that can loan you the tool or $&#8230;lol)&#8230;<br
/> i am 32 but i am one of those who seem to have been born in the wrong time in history&#8230;and it is so nice to hear when someone else (especially one as talented and gifted, and also has a prominent voice in the woodworking community) has the attraction to the more traditional ways of woodworking. i am not saying that items made with power tools are &quot;inferior&quot; in any way, but there is just something comforting about knowing an item has been crafted by hand. there is definitely still something to say for the craftsmanship and love for your work and love for the actual materials that go into a &quot;hand made&quot; piece. power tool lovers please dont fret, i still am astonished, impressed, and have an incredible amount of respect for your years of dedication, hard work and shear skill..look at it as a good thing that we have these differences in the way we do things&#8230;otherwise we might as well stand on an assembly line and slap a mass producer label on our work&#8230;<br
/> thank you all for your posts</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Shannon Brown</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/chris-schwarz-blog/why-do-this-crap-by-hand/comment-page-2#comment-10987</link> <dc:creator>Shannon Brown</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 04:56:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blog.woodworking-magazine.com/blog/Why+Do+This+Crap+By+Hand.aspx#comment-10987</guid> <description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve tried to give this time so I could properly write my views down, add something of note, not sound like a jerk in the process. I&#039;ll be surprised if I do any of the above, but here goes.One of the benefits of having multiple interests is the ability to compare and contrast various trends and attitudes that take place within those interest. the hand tool v. power tool debate in woodworking reminds me of the free weight v machine weight debate from the late 70&#039;s in the body building/ power lifting circles and the acoustic drum v electronic drum debate in drumming circles.Mostly the debates broke along generational lines (as most do). With the lifting debate many of the old guard saw the new machines as being for wimps, posers, and women (it was a tad sexist back then. Was too young to witness it first hand, but some of the books and articles wrote during that time defiantly raised my eyebrows.); while the younger guys saw free weights as dangerous and inefficient. With drums, the old guard said electronic drums were for people who couldn&#039;t play while the younger guys saw acoustic drums as primitive and limiting.So what does this have to do with hand tool v power tools? Well, once again there is a generational divide. But here it get&#039;s a little interesting. Most of the hand tool enthusiast, as I can tell, tend to be ageing baby boomers and young, neo hippies. In both cases there is a strong does of psychology going on here. With the baby boomers, these tend to be older men, many who came from working class backgrounds, and who went to college and got white collar jobs. These might be men (and they are mostly men) who either rejected all tools together or at least hand tools in specific. And by embracing hand tools, they are, by proxy, embracing fathers they might have spent the whole of their early adulthood trying to rebel against or escape from. For the neo hippies, they see hand tool work as a carbon neutral, environmentally friendly way of working.So, what am I saying? Well what was the question? “Why should someone work wood with hand tools when power tools are available?” Well the true answer, the real answer, the only answer is, there isn’t. Plain and simple. But there’s no reason not to. In fact if one think this has anything to do with woodworking (or drumming or weightlifting) is missing the point. The real question is, “What is the psychological and emotional benefit of using this product, engaging in this activity, and doing so in this way?” Wood doesn’t care if it’s ripped with a 100 year old Disston saw or a brand new Grizzly table. Those only matter to the person doing the ripping and only the individual can answer that. We can say why WE work wood that way, but that’s it.When I started working wood, I was a power tool only guy. Then after I couple years, I sold all my power tools and machines and went hand tool only. Five years and several thousand dollars later, I’ve just about replaced everything I sold off. What I found is I didn’t like using one approach over the other, I liked both equally. I like having both the ability and freedom to pursue both. But that’s me and only me.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve tried to give this time so I could properly write my views down, add something of note, not sound like a jerk in the process. I&#8217;ll be surprised if I do any of the above, but here goes.</p><p>One of the benefits of having multiple interests is the ability to compare and contrast various trends and attitudes that take place within those interest. the hand tool v. power tool debate in woodworking reminds me of the free weight v machine weight debate from the late 70&#8242;s in the body building/ power lifting circles and the acoustic drum v electronic drum debate in drumming circles.</p><p>Mostly the debates broke along generational lines (as most do). With the lifting debate many of the old guard saw the new machines as being for wimps, posers, and women (it was a tad sexist back then. Was too young to witness it first hand, but some of the books and articles wrote during that time defiantly raised my eyebrows.); while the younger guys saw free weights as dangerous and inefficient. With drums, the old guard said electronic drums were for people who couldn&#8217;t play while the younger guys saw acoustic drums as primitive and limiting.</p><p>So what does this have to do with hand tool v power tools? Well, once again there is a generational divide. But here it get&#8217;s a little interesting. Most of the hand tool enthusiast, as I can tell, tend to be ageing baby boomers and young, neo hippies. In both cases there is a strong does of psychology going on here. With the baby boomers, these tend to be older men, many who came from working class backgrounds, and who went to college and got white collar jobs. These might be men (and they are mostly men) who either rejected all tools together or at least hand tools in specific. And by embracing hand tools, they are, by proxy, embracing fathers they might have spent the whole of their early adulthood trying to rebel against or escape from. For the neo hippies, they see hand tool work as a carbon neutral, environmentally friendly way of working.</p><p>So, what am I saying? Well what was the question? “Why should someone work wood with hand tools when power tools are available?” Well the true answer, the real answer, the only answer is, there isn’t. Plain and simple. But there’s no reason not to. In fact if one think this has anything to do with woodworking (or drumming or weightlifting) is missing the point. The real question is, “What is the psychological and emotional benefit of using this product, engaging in this activity, and doing so in this way?” Wood doesn’t care if it’s ripped with a 100 year old Disston saw or a brand new Grizzly table. Those only matter to the person doing the ripping and only the individual can answer that. We can say why WE work wood that way, but that’s it.</p><p>When I started working wood, I was a power tool only guy. Then after I couple years, I sold all my power tools and machines and went hand tool only. Five years and several thousand dollars later, I’ve just about replaced everything I sold off. What I found is I didn’t like using one approach over the other, I liked both equally. I like having both the ability and freedom to pursue both. But that’s me and only me.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Steve Branam</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/chris-schwarz-blog/why-do-this-crap-by-hand/comment-page-2#comment-10986</link> <dc:creator>Steve Branam</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:42:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blog.woodworking-magazine.com/blog/Why+Do+This+Crap+By+Hand.aspx#comment-10986</guid> <description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve just completed building my Roubo. After running my stock through a benchtop planer, I did all the rest by hand. I documented the whole process on a blog, with a video at the end demonstrating the features of the bench. Click on my name to see it.Sure, it was a lot of work, taking over four months of a few hours here and there. But the satisfaction of knowing it was me doing all the work, and not my machines, is immense. I feel like I really accomplished something. It grew my skill set tremendously and gives me the confidence to do more ambitious projects. No more fears about awkward setups. Just do it.Why do it by hand? For the pure joy of it.Certainly that&#039;s the hobbyist&#039;s viewpoint, where I can afford to spend any amount of time, but that joy is the reason it&#039;s a hobby.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just completed building my Roubo. After running my stock through a benchtop planer, I did all the rest by hand. I documented the whole process on a blog, with a video at the end demonstrating the features of the bench. Click on my name to see it.</p><p>Sure, it was a lot of work, taking over four months of a few hours here and there. But the satisfaction of knowing it was me doing all the work, and not my machines, is immense. I feel like I really accomplished something. It grew my skill set tremendously and gives me the confidence to do more ambitious projects. No more fears about awkward setups. Just do it.</p><p>Why do it by hand? For the pure joy of it.</p><p>Certainly that&#8217;s the hobbyist&#8217;s viewpoint, where I can afford to spend any amount of time, but that joy is the reason it&#8217;s a hobby.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: james</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/chris-schwarz-blog/why-do-this-crap-by-hand/comment-page-2#comment-10985</link> <dc:creator>james</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 19:51:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blog.woodworking-magazine.com/blog/Why+Do+This+Crap+By+Hand.aspx#comment-10985</guid> <description><![CDATA[Wow, alot of comments. I think thats right, its results VS process and fact is, most folks are only willing to pay for results.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, alot of comments. I think thats right, its results VS process and fact is, most folks are only willing to pay for results.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rob @ Evenfall Studios</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/chris-schwarz-blog/why-do-this-crap-by-hand/comment-page-2#comment-10984</link> <dc:creator>Rob @ Evenfall Studios</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 23:44:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blog.woodworking-magazine.com/blog/Why+Do+This+Crap+By+Hand.aspx#comment-10984</guid> <description><![CDATA[You are right Chris,The difference, mostly, is between our ears.  It&#039;s kind of a &quot;do what you love and the rest will come&quot; philosophy. Eventually a statement like that will come to matter.Sign me, Enjoying the Journey,Bests, Rob]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right Chris,</p><p>The difference, mostly, is between our ears.  It&#8217;s kind of a &quot;do what you love and the rest will come&quot; philosophy. Eventually a statement like that will come to matter.</p><p>Sign me, Enjoying the Journey,</p><p>Bests, Rob</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: tms</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/chris-schwarz-blog/why-do-this-crap-by-hand/comment-page-2#comment-10983</link> <dc:creator>tms</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:06:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blog.woodworking-magazine.com/blog/Why+Do+This+Crap+By+Hand.aspx#comment-10983</guid> <description><![CDATA[Hey Chris,My wife accompanied me to a wood working show one day, and while walking by the ShopBot booth, I commented that there seemed to be more of that type of woodworking presented than in the past.  She replied,
&quot;That&#039;s not woodworking, that&#039;s wood machining.&quot;I gave her a big hug, and told her I love her.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Chris,</p><p>My wife accompanied me to a wood working show one day, and while walking by the ShopBot booth, I commented that there seemed to be more of that type of woodworking presented than in the past.  She replied,<br
/> &quot;That&#8217;s not woodworking, that&#8217;s wood machining.&quot;</p><p>I gave her a big hug, and told her I love her.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ray</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/chris-schwarz-blog/why-do-this-crap-by-hand/comment-page-2#comment-10982</link> <dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 15:40:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blog.woodworking-magazine.com/blog/Why+Do+This+Crap+By+Hand.aspx#comment-10982</guid> <description><![CDATA[RE: &quot;...hmmm, I drive a Morgan...probably should be using hand tools exclusively...&quot;I drive a 1931 Model A Ford truck almost exclusively, with a home-made bumper sticker on it that says &quot;What would the Woodwright do?&quot; I guess that plants me squarely in the handtools-only camp as well (though I do have an early-50&#039;s Shopsmith hidden away in the back of my barn for use on those days when my joints are hurtin&#039;...).Ray]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: &quot;&#8230;hmmm, I drive a Morgan&#8230;probably should be using hand tools exclusively&#8230;&quot;</p><p>I drive a 1931 Model A Ford truck almost exclusively, with a home-made bumper sticker on it that says &quot;What would the Woodwright do?&quot; I guess that plants me squarely in the handtools-only camp as well (though I do have an early-50&#8242;s Shopsmith hidden away in the back of my barn for use on those days when my joints are hurtin&#8217;&#8230;).</p><p>Ray</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kurt Schmitz</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/chris-schwarz-blog/why-do-this-crap-by-hand/comment-page-2#comment-10981</link> <dc:creator>Kurt Schmitz</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:57:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blog.woodworking-magazine.com/blog/Why+Do+This+Crap+By+Hand.aspx#comment-10981</guid> <description><![CDATA[AJ, your answer speaks the &#039;plane&#039; truth more than any of the other posts. Well done!]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ, your answer speaks the &#8216;plane&#8217; truth more than any of the other posts. Well done!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bruce Jackson</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/chris-schwarz-blog/why-do-this-crap-by-hand/comment-page-2#comment-10980</link> <dc:creator>Bruce Jackson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 03:49:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blog.woodworking-magazine.com/blog/Why+Do+This+Crap+By+Hand.aspx#comment-10980</guid> <description><![CDATA[Curiously, I&#039;m reminded of the Ballad of John Henry - gonna die with my Disston in my hand, Lord, Lord, gonna die with my Disston in my hand. Or gonna die with my chisel in my hand, Lord, Lord, gonna die with my chisel in my hand (if the context was cutting mortises).]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curiously, I&#8217;m reminded of the Ballad of John Henry &#8211; gonna die with my Disston in my hand, Lord, Lord, gonna die with my Disston in my hand. Or gonna die with my chisel in my hand, Lord, Lord, gonna die with my chisel in my hand (if the context was cutting mortises).</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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