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> <channel><title>Comments on: Things I Cannot Teach About Woodworking</title> <atom:link href="http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/chris-schwarz-blog/things-i-cannot-teach-about-woodworking/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/chris-schwarz-blog/things-i-cannot-teach-about-woodworking</link> <description>Woodworking advice, woodworking plans, woodworking projects and woodworking blogs</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 14:10:07 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1</generator> <item><title>By: Recruiter</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/chris-schwarz-blog/things-i-cannot-teach-about-woodworking/comment-page-1#comment-71589</link> <dc:creator>Recruiter</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 15:54:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.popularwoodworking.com/?p=105905#comment-71589</guid> <description><![CDATA[I used to hate using a jointer.  I didn&#039;t have any problem getting a face flat. but when I was done, the board was like a very long wedge.  Always wider on one edge than the other.  Then it hit me.  Its all finesse.  Learn where to put your pressure, and you get flat boards.  Guess what.  It worked!  I&#039;ve done that with most of my woodworking.  Figure out what you are doing wrong, then learn from your mistakes.  Recompensate your motions, pressure or feel of working the wood, to get your end result.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to hate using a jointer.  I didn&#8217;t have any problem getting a face flat. but when I was done, the board was like a very long wedge.  Always wider on one edge than the other.  Then it hit me.  Its all finesse.  Learn where to put your pressure, and you get flat boards.  Guess what.  It worked!  I&#8217;ve done that with most of my woodworking.  Figure out what you are doing wrong, then learn from your mistakes.  Recompensate your motions, pressure or feel of working the wood, to get your end result.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Christopher Schwarz</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/chris-schwarz-blog/things-i-cannot-teach-about-woodworking/comment-page-1#comment-19654</link> <dc:creator>Christopher Schwarz</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2011 20:19:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.popularwoodworking.com/?p=105905#comment-19654</guid> <description><![CDATA[David,White pine is a very typical wood for stick Windsors. However, I&#039;ve not made one with a white pine seat that lacks stretchers. These will have oak stretchers, spindles and crest rail. The arm bow is ash.Sorry I don&#039;t have a good answer for you.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p><p>White pine is a very typical wood for stick Windsors. However, I&#8217;ve not made one with a white pine seat that lacks stretchers. These will have oak stretchers, spindles and crest rail. The arm bow is ash.</p><p>Sorry I don&#8217;t have a good answer for you.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: David Keller</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/chris-schwarz-blog/things-i-cannot-teach-about-woodworking/comment-page-1#comment-19652</link> <dc:creator>David Keller</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 13:55:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.popularwoodworking.com/?p=105905#comment-19652</guid> <description><![CDATA[Chris - A question.  I&#039;m gearing up to make a few of these chairs, and I have Drew Langsner&#039;s book as a guide.  You picture seems to show a seat blank of white pine, but Drew&#039;s text suggests that the seat blank should be out of a wood &quot;no softer than poplar&quot;.  And that they&#039;re typically made of oak, ash or elm.  All I have that is suitable at the moment in large enough size is white pine, or possibly mahogany, but that would be a bit extravagant, and in my opinion, a bit out of place on a vernacular chair.Have you made these stretcherless stick chairs with a seat blank of EWP, and in your opinion, are they strong enough?]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris &#8211; A question.  I&#8217;m gearing up to make a few of these chairs, and I have Drew Langsner&#8217;s book as a guide.  You picture seems to show a seat blank of white pine, but Drew&#8217;s text suggests that the seat blank should be out of a wood &#8220;no softer than poplar&#8221;.  And that they&#8217;re typically made of oak, ash or elm.  All I have that is suitable at the moment in large enough size is white pine, or possibly mahogany, but that would be a bit extravagant, and in my opinion, a bit out of place on a vernacular chair.</p><p>Have you made these stretcherless stick chairs with a seat blank of EWP, and in your opinion, are they strong enough?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: George West</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/chris-schwarz-blog/things-i-cannot-teach-about-woodworking/comment-page-1#comment-19649</link> <dc:creator>George West</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 11:55:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.popularwoodworking.com/?p=105905#comment-19649</guid> <description><![CDATA[Great post Chris, for 2 reasons. First it shows to do woodworking you learn by doing, it is the feel, touch, and sound, of either the machine, or hand tool that tells you if you are on track. No writer can pass that experience, or knowledge on to you. Second it is further proof you are indeed a mixed woodworker, congratulations x 2 as well, on this fine piece, and your time with Katy.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Chris, for 2 reasons. First it shows to do woodworking you learn by doing, it is the feel, touch, and sound, of either the machine, or hand tool that tells you if you are on track. No writer can pass that experience, or knowledge on to you. Second it is further proof you are indeed a mixed woodworker, congratulations x 2 as well, on this fine piece, and your time with Katy.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: samson141</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/chris-schwarz-blog/things-i-cannot-teach-about-woodworking/comment-page-1#comment-19647</link> <dc:creator>samson141</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 00:13:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.popularwoodworking.com/?p=105905#comment-19647</guid> <description><![CDATA[Make yourself happy. I wasn&#039;t suggesting you should rive the spindles; I thought you were saying that you shaped them into tool handle tapered octogons on the jointer and were making ferule-like tenons on the lathe for more or less immediate use on the chairs. Which even if it were true, of course, would be fine.By the way, does the anarchist even have a jointer machine?  I remember a planer, table saw, bandsaw, and drill press ...Good book, by the way.  kudos]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make yourself happy. I wasn&#8217;t suggesting you should rive the spindles; I thought you were saying that you shaped them into tool handle tapered octogons on the jointer and were making ferule-like tenons on the lathe for more or less immediate use on the chairs. Which even if it were true, of course, would be fine.</p><p>By the way, does the anarchist even have a jointer machine?  I remember a planer, table saw, bandsaw, and drill press &#8230;</p><p>Good book, by the way.  kudos</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Christopher Schwarz</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/chris-schwarz-blog/things-i-cannot-teach-about-woodworking/comment-page-1#comment-19646</link> <dc:creator>Christopher Schwarz</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 22:14:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.popularwoodworking.com/?p=105905#comment-19646</guid> <description><![CDATA[I&#039;m just roughing out the stock with machines -- just like John Brown did. He used an enormous band saw to saw all his stock. No riving.About 90 percent of the work will be by hand -- saddling, shaving the spindles, boring, etc. etc.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just roughing out the stock with machines &#8212; just like John Brown did. He used an enormous band saw to saw all his stock. No riving.</p><p>About 90 percent of the work will be by hand &#8212; saddling, shaving the spindles, boring, etc. etc.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: samson141</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/chris-schwarz-blog/things-i-cannot-teach-about-woodworking/comment-page-1#comment-19644</link> <dc:creator>samson141</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 20:20:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.popularwoodworking.com/?p=105905#comment-19644</guid> <description><![CDATA[There difinitely are many things in woodworking, as in life, that cannot really be taught, but must be learned through first-hand experience and practice.But about those welsh stick chairs ... a jointer?  Will you be using a CNC machine to shape the seats? ;-)  I wonder what John Brown would think?  But seriously, it seems very incongrous to use machinery to form perfect tapered octagons on a form that is so rooted in its hand wrought nature.  The charm of many such chairs stems from the quirks that happen in drawknifing, scorping, and otherwise engagin in the &quot;workmanship of risk.&quot;]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There difinitely are many things in woodworking, as in life, that cannot really be taught, but must be learned through first-hand experience and practice.</p><p>But about those welsh stick chairs &#8230; a jointer?  Will you be using a CNC machine to shape the seats? <img
src='http://d2amilv9vi9flo.cloudfront.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> I wonder what John Brown would think?  But seriously, it seems very incongrous to use machinery to form perfect tapered octagons on a form that is so rooted in its hand wrought nature.  The charm of many such chairs stems from the quirks that happen in drawknifing, scorping, and otherwise engagin in the &#8220;workmanship of risk.&#8221;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Niels</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/chris-schwarz-blog/things-i-cannot-teach-about-woodworking/comment-page-1#comment-19642</link> <dc:creator>Niels</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:55:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.popularwoodworking.com/?p=105905#comment-19642</guid> <description><![CDATA[I hear you.Teaching craft is a difficult thing. Everybody has different ways of seeing and has different &quot;hands&quot;. To my mind there are two critical parts to learning anything. The first is having good information. Understanding the mechanics: how a process works, what are the critical components and what are they doing, and what is your relationship to the process. Real nuts and bolts stuff.The second part is far more subtle and largly internal process. This part is about paying attention. It requires focusing on the task at hand and making connections between action and result. I am convinced this is where real learning happens. Through practice, repetition and FAILURE you gain the experience and confidence to work with consistency and quality.
Also you are able better equipped to diagnose and make corrections when something unexpected happens or something is broken. It&#039;s usually not rocket-surgery.One of the biggest challenges learning something new is to get frustrated when the results don&#039;t line up with your intentions. It&#039;s even more frustrating when you&#039;ve spent a great deal of time and energy and the results are still disappointing. I see people get discouraged and give up before they step back and look at what they trying to do and how they were going about doing it.I think the best advice you can give anyone is that failure is a constructive part of learning. Training the hands is as much about training you eye to recognize the hallmarks of success and error.
The key to NOT GIVE UP, learn from your mistakes, and move on.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear you.</p><p>Teaching craft is a difficult thing. Everybody has different ways of seeing and has different &#8220;hands&#8221;. To my mind there are two critical parts to learning anything. The first is having good information. Understanding the mechanics: how a process works, what are the critical components and what are they doing, and what is your relationship to the process. Real nuts and bolts stuff.</p><p>The second part is far more subtle and largly internal process. This part is about paying attention. It requires focusing on the task at hand and making connections between action and result. I am convinced this is where real learning happens. Through practice, repetition and FAILURE you gain the experience and confidence to work with consistency and quality.<br
/> Also you are able better equipped to diagnose and make corrections when something unexpected happens or something is broken. It&#8217;s usually not rocket-surgery.</p><p>One of the biggest challenges learning something new is to get frustrated when the results don&#8217;t line up with your intentions. It&#8217;s even more frustrating when you&#8217;ve spent a great deal of time and energy and the results are still disappointing. I see people get discouraged and give up before they step back and look at what they trying to do and how they were going about doing it.</p><p>I think the best advice you can give anyone is that failure is a constructive part of learning. Training the hands is as much about training you eye to recognize the hallmarks of success and error.<br
/> The key to NOT GIVE UP, learn from your mistakes, and move on.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mscaldas</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/chris-schwarz-blog/things-i-cannot-teach-about-woodworking/comment-page-1#comment-19641</link> <dc:creator>mscaldas</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 17:52:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.popularwoodworking.com/?p=105905#comment-19641</guid> <description><![CDATA[Well, believe it or not, this is a very inspiring post. See.. for quite some time I&#039;ve been demotivated to say the least with the jointer/planner combo I got, because I can&#039;t get a good ol&#039; square piece of stock.... I was blaming the cheap jointer and tuning that is beyond my skills...Well, surely there&#039;s some of that. But it gives me hope to know that there&#039;s more for me to learn... some of those learning curves, takes time and experience and that&#039;s what I understood when you said there&#039;s no words to teach, but again, it really gave me hope that I can probably get better results from the tools I have by simply paying more attention and actually using it.thanks!]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, believe it or not, this is a very inspiring post. See.. for quite some time I&#8217;ve been demotivated to say the least with the jointer/planner combo I got, because I can&#8217;t get a good ol&#8217; square piece of stock&#8230;. I was blaming the cheap jointer and tuning that is beyond my skills&#8230;</p><p>Well, surely there&#8217;s some of that. But it gives me hope to know that there&#8217;s more for me to learn&#8230; some of those learning curves, takes time and experience and that&#8217;s what I understood when you said there&#8217;s no words to teach, but again, it really gave me hope that I can probably get better results from the tools I have by simply paying more attention and actually using it.</p><p>thanks!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mitchell</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/chris-schwarz-blog/things-i-cannot-teach-about-woodworking/comment-page-1#comment-19640</link> <dc:creator>Mitchell</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 17:43:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.popularwoodworking.com/?p=105905#comment-19640</guid> <description><![CDATA[My old man took a different approach when teaching me about using a jointer. He told me to think like a machine.As he put it to me; you are using a multipurpose machine to do a specific job. If you were building the machine to do this specific job, what would you add to it to make it work?The answer, of course, is a pressure plate and feed drive. Calculating where you would place the mechanical device over the bed quickly tells you where to put the human pressure and how to handle the feed.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My old man took a different approach when teaching me about using a jointer. He told me to think like a machine.</p><p>As he put it to me; you are using a multipurpose machine to do a specific job. If you were building the machine to do this specific job, what would you add to it to make it work?</p><p>The answer, of course, is a pressure plate and feed drive. Calculating where you would place the mechanical device over the bed quickly tells you where to put the human pressure and how to handle the feed.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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