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> <channel><title>Comments on: Setting up the New Stanley Chisels</title> <atom:link href="http://www.popularwoodworking.com/tools/tool-reviews/setting-up-the-new-stanley-chisels/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/tools/tool-reviews/setting-up-the-new-stanley-chisels</link> <description>Woodworking advice, woodworking plans, woodworking projects and woodworking blogs</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 17:51:24 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1</generator> <item><title>By: charzkuentzle</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/tools/tool-reviews/setting-up-the-new-stanley-chisels/comment-page-1#comment-17801</link> <dc:creator>charzkuentzle</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 02:34:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.popularwoodworking.com/?p=92411#comment-17801</guid> <description><![CDATA[My set came in the mail last week, haven&#039;t used them much yet. The backs were all &quot;Good&quot; as Chris would say, and I ground the shoulders similar to the LN style chisels. For the set of 8 it took me 3 hours to flatten them, grind the shoulders and sharpen them up nice.Biggest issues, the 1/4 inch chisel was ground off center of the socket!? The beveled edges aren&#039;t even (I ground the shoulders down to almost nothing so this didn&#039;t matter) and the blade edge isn&#039;t square to the shoulder on any of them.Oh and the wood box as advertised was a cardboard box with wood print.But after 3 hours work, there great.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My set came in the mail last week, haven&#8217;t used them much yet. The backs were all &#8220;Good&#8221; as Chris would say, and I ground the shoulders similar to the LN style chisels. For the set of 8 it took me 3 hours to flatten them, grind the shoulders and sharpen them up nice.</p><p>Biggest issues, the 1/4 inch chisel was ground off center of the socket!? The beveled edges aren&#8217;t even (I ground the shoulders down to almost nothing so this didn&#8217;t matter) and the blade edge isn&#8217;t square to the shoulder on any of them.</p><p>Oh and the wood box as advertised was a cardboard box with wood print.</p><p>But after 3 hours work, there great.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ocd</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/tools/tool-reviews/setting-up-the-new-stanley-chisels/comment-page-1#comment-17131</link> <dc:creator>ocd</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 15:07:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.popularwoodworking.com/?p=92411#comment-17131</guid> <description><![CDATA[A quote from the Brownell&#039;s catalogue:It&#039;s unwise to pay too much, but worse to pay too little.  When you pay too much you lose a little money, that is all.  When you pay too little, sometimes you lose everything because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was supposed to do.The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot.  It can&#039;t be done.  If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that, you will have enough to pay for something better.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A quote from the Brownell&#8217;s catalogue:</p><p>It&#8217;s unwise to pay too much, but worse to pay too little.  When you pay too much you lose a little money, that is all.  When you pay too little, sometimes you lose everything because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was supposed to do.</p><p>The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot.  It can&#8217;t be done.  If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that, you will have enough to pay for something better.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: CessnapilotBarry</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/tools/tool-reviews/setting-up-the-new-stanley-chisels/comment-page-1#comment-17031</link> <dc:creator>CessnapilotBarry</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 12:42:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.popularwoodworking.com/?p=92411#comment-17031</guid> <description><![CDATA[I agree that samples should be &quot;off the shelf&quot;, and didn&#039;t want to imply that anyone would cherry pick or reviews were skewed.The point I meant to make was that if this is the product, the only place I&#039;d send it is back to the production team.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that samples should be &#8220;off the shelf&#8221;, and didn&#8217;t want to imply that anyone would cherry pick or reviews were skewed.</p><p>The point I meant to make was that if this is the product, the only place I&#8217;d send it is back to the production team.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JimB1</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/tools/tool-reviews/setting-up-the-new-stanley-chisels/comment-page-1#comment-17021</link> <dc:creator>JimB1</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 12:34:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.popularwoodworking.com/?p=92411#comment-17021</guid> <description><![CDATA[I&#039;m looking forward to reading the rest of the setup and test of these chisels. Are you also going to get a set of the new Stanley Bailey chisels (Beech handles, tang type, made in England) to test as well? I checked out a set over the weekend and they had visible tooling marks on the backs and rough handles but were inexpensive for the full set so I wasn&#039;t expecting too fine of a finishing job on them. I ordered a set figuring on taking some time to set them up to end up with a reasonable set of bench chisels.The Sweethearts however are 2x the price of the Baileys and Stanley says they are competing with Lee Valley and Lie-Nielsen so I would have expected them to be better then you&#039;ve shown so far. Maybe I expect too much but flat backs on a want to be premium chisel doesn&#039;t seem to be a lot to ask...Just a quick gripe about Stanley in general, their website is pretty horrible. You can&#039;t even find either of the new chisels if you just go through the menus, you have to search for them by keyword to find them on the site. You&#039;d think spinning up a premium line would mean they would spend a couple of hundred and make a dedicated site for the Sweetheart line so they can effectively advertise them to people looking for more info. (anyone from Stanley reading this????)]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to reading the rest of the setup and test of these chisels. Are you also going to get a set of the new Stanley Bailey chisels (Beech handles, tang type, made in England) to test as well? I checked out a set over the weekend and they had visible tooling marks on the backs and rough handles but were inexpensive for the full set so I wasn&#8217;t expecting too fine of a finishing job on them. I ordered a set figuring on taking some time to set them up to end up with a reasonable set of bench chisels.</p><p>The Sweethearts however are 2x the price of the Baileys and Stanley says they are competing with Lee Valley and Lie-Nielsen so I would have expected them to be better then you&#8217;ve shown so far. Maybe I expect too much but flat backs on a want to be premium chisel doesn&#8217;t seem to be a lot to ask&#8230;</p><p>Just a quick gripe about Stanley in general, their website is pretty horrible. You can&#8217;t even find either of the new chisels if you just go through the menus, you have to search for them by keyword to find them on the site. You&#8217;d think spinning up a premium line would mean they would spend a couple of hundred and make a dedicated site for the Sweetheart line so they can effectively advertise them to people looking for more info. (anyone from Stanley reading this????)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Christopher Schwarz</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/tools/tool-reviews/setting-up-the-new-stanley-chisels/comment-page-1#comment-16961</link> <dc:creator>Christopher Schwarz</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 22:11:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.popularwoodworking.com/?p=92411#comment-16961</guid> <description><![CDATA[Most manufacturers play by the rules. They send something off the shelf. That&#039;s what we do when we send out books for review.In 15 years, I can think of only one item that was, ahem, tampered with before shipping to us.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most manufacturers play by the rules. They send something off the shelf. That&#8217;s what we do when we send out books for review.</p><p>In 15 years, I can think of only one item that was, ahem, tampered with before shipping to us.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: tsstahl</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/tools/tool-reviews/setting-up-the-new-stanley-chisels/comment-page-1#comment-16951</link> <dc:creator>tsstahl</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 21:48:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.popularwoodworking.com/?p=92411#comment-16951</guid> <description><![CDATA[Barry, I think it would be cheating for them to send non-representative samples to Chris.I&#039;d be mega POd if I purchased crap based on a glowing review.  I would doubt the manufacturer AND the press source.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry, I think it would be cheating for them to send non-representative samples to Chris.</p><p>I&#8217;d be mega POd if I purchased crap based on a glowing review.  I would doubt the manufacturer AND the press source.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: tsstahl</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/tools/tool-reviews/setting-up-the-new-stanley-chisels/comment-page-1#comment-16941</link> <dc:creator>tsstahl</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 21:43:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.popularwoodworking.com/?p=92411#comment-16941</guid> <description><![CDATA[Chris, is the blade in the second photo really that visibly curved round at the end, or is just parallax distortion?Great timing on this post.  I was looking at Highland woodworking&#039;s site yesterday and noticed they had the stanleys for sale.  I almost bought the big set.I very recently picked up two Narex chisels based on the recommendation of a poster in your blog.  Sure, they are cheap enough but the backs are atrocious; one still has circular grinding marks on it.  They are in the tool box with the Harbor Freight chisel-like hunks of pig iron.I use Irwin Marples that I picked up at a home center store a while ago.  They only took a few minutes of work (bout half hour per) and they were certainly cheap enough.I just found out the Lie Nielsen offers longer handles for their chisels.  Based on your post and my past experience with LN, I&#039;m going to save up and take the plunge and get the LN chisels with the long handles.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, is the blade in the second photo really that visibly curved round at the end, or is just parallax distortion?</p><p>Great timing on this post.  I was looking at Highland woodworking&#8217;s site yesterday and noticed they had the stanleys for sale.  I almost bought the big set.</p><p>I very recently picked up two Narex chisels based on the recommendation of a poster in your blog.  Sure, they are cheap enough but the backs are atrocious; one still has circular grinding marks on it.  They are in the tool box with the Harbor Freight chisel-like hunks of pig iron.</p><p>I use Irwin Marples that I picked up at a home center store a while ago.  They only took a few minutes of work (bout half hour per) and they were certainly cheap enough.</p><p>I just found out the Lie Nielsen offers longer handles for their chisels.  Based on your post and my past experience with LN, I&#8217;m going to save up and take the plunge and get the LN chisels with the long handles.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Christopher Schwarz</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/tools/tool-reviews/setting-up-the-new-stanley-chisels/comment-page-1#comment-16891</link> <dc:creator>Christopher Schwarz</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 19:56:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.popularwoodworking.com/?p=92411#comment-16891</guid> <description><![CDATA[Permanent marker that shows where the low spots are.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Permanent marker that shows where the low spots are.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: CessnapilotBarry</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/tools/tool-reviews/setting-up-the-new-stanley-chisels/comment-page-1#comment-16881</link> <dc:creator>CessnapilotBarry</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 18:52:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.popularwoodworking.com/?p=92411#comment-16881</guid> <description><![CDATA[You&#039;d think a company pushing to enter today&#039;s world of better-quality woodworking tools could get something as simple as the back of a chisel correct.This makes me wonder if the people in charge of sending samples to well-known tool reviewers know anything at all about the tools they sell.  I had high hopes for these chisels after seeing samples at a woodworking show.I guess this is just another example of LN&#039;s fair pricing.   Apparently, what LN charges is what it costs to provide a quality inch-sized socket chisel.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;d think a company pushing to enter today&#8217;s world of better-quality woodworking tools could get something as simple as the back of a chisel correct.</p><p>This makes me wonder if the people in charge of sending samples to well-known tool reviewers know anything at all about the tools they sell.  I had high hopes for these chisels after seeing samples at a woodworking show.</p><p>I guess this is just another example of LN&#8217;s fair pricing.   Apparently, what LN charges is what it costs to provide a quality inch-sized socket chisel.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jonathan Szczepanski</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/tools/tool-reviews/setting-up-the-new-stanley-chisels/comment-page-1#comment-16871</link> <dc:creator>Jonathan Szczepanski</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 18:10:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.popularwoodworking.com/?p=92411#comment-16871</guid> <description><![CDATA[Chris, what&#039;s the red stuff?]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, what&#8217;s the red stuff?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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