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> <channel><title>Comments on: Exercise in Layout and Marking</title> <atom:link href="http://www.popularwoodworking.com/article/exercise-in-layout-and-marking/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/article/exercise-in-layout-and-marking</link> <description>Woodworking advice, woodworking plans, woodworking projects and woodworking blogs</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 13:56:03 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1</generator> <item><title>By: Leszek Cyfer</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/article/exercise-in-layout-and-marking/comment-page-1#comment-13722</link> <dc:creator>Leszek Cyfer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 19 Sep 2010 11:56:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.popularwoodworking.com/editorsblog/Exercise+In+Layout+And+Marking.aspx#comment-13722</guid> <description><![CDATA[I found that drawing a straight line is tricky as the steel ruler slips on the wood surface - to avoid that I glued fine sandpaper - using doublesided tape - to one side of the ruler. It works as charm - the ruler sits squarely where I want it to without any inclinations to move. At the same time I use the sanding paper side to sharpen my blades - it&#039;s nicely flat and, as you know, firm and sharp tools are prerequisite of precise work. Small thing and very good results. Worth emulating :)]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found that drawing a straight line is tricky as the steel ruler slips on the wood surface &#8211; to avoid that I glued fine sandpaper &#8211; using doublesided tape &#8211; to one side of the ruler. It works as charm &#8211; the ruler sits squarely where I want it to without any inclinations to move. At the same time I use the sanding paper side to sharpen my blades &#8211; it&#8217;s nicely flat and, as you know, firm and sharp tools are prerequisite of precise work. Small thing and very good results. Worth emulating <img
src='http://d2amilv9vi9flo.cloudfront.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Theodore</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/article/exercise-in-layout-and-marking/comment-page-1#comment-13721</link> <dc:creator>Theodore</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 19:26:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.popularwoodworking.com/editorsblog/Exercise+In+Layout+And+Marking.aspx#comment-13721</guid> <description><![CDATA[&quot;A propos&quot; there is a formula to find the radius of an arc when we only know its chord C and the arc&#039;s height H from its edge.R = ((C/2)^2 + H^2) / 2H]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;A propos&quot; there is a formula to find the radius of an arc when we only know its chord C and the arc&#8217;s height H from its edge.</p><p>R = ((C/2)^2 + H^2) / 2H</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Danny</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/article/exercise-in-layout-and-marking/comment-page-1#comment-13720</link> <dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 20:11:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.popularwoodworking.com/editorsblog/Exercise+In+Layout+And+Marking.aspx#comment-13720</guid> <description><![CDATA[A &quot;trick&quot; that works with pencil lines ONLY.Use alcohol to remove them.  It won&#039;t erase a dent, but it does get rid of the pencil lead.  You won&#039;t have the &quot;ghost&quot; lines as shown above.That can get really anoying if you&#039;ve erased a lot of lines.  I know, I&#039;ve done both.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A &quot;trick&quot; that works with pencil lines ONLY.</p><p>Use alcohol to remove them.  It won&#8217;t erase a dent, but it does get rid of the pencil lead.  You won&#8217;t have the &quot;ghost&quot; lines as shown above.</p><p>That can get really anoying if you&#8217;ve erased a lot of lines.  I know, I&#8217;ve done both.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bill Wells</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/article/exercise-in-layout-and-marking/comment-page-1#comment-13719</link> <dc:creator>Bill Wells</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:12:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.popularwoodworking.com/editorsblog/Exercise+In+Layout+And+Marking.aspx#comment-13719</guid> <description><![CDATA[Good lesson on layout and tools, Bob.I recently bought a tool that helps a lot. A large illuminated magnifying glass that sets on a stand on my workbench. This one came from an office supply store. I would need it to read the fine divisions on that steel rule, whether they be metric or Imperial units.Bill]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good lesson on layout and tools, Bob.</p><p>I recently bought a tool that helps a lot. A large illuminated magnifying glass that sets on a stand on my workbench. This one came from an office supply store. I would need it to read the fine divisions on that steel rule, whether they be metric or Imperial units.</p><p>Bill</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rob</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/article/exercise-in-layout-and-marking/comment-page-1#comment-13718</link> <dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 07:29:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.popularwoodworking.com/editorsblog/Exercise+In+Layout+And+Marking.aspx#comment-13718</guid> <description><![CDATA[Hi Bob,Straight Edges and Squared Ends are a biggie for layout.  The board needs those made onto them  before further layout can begin.  Then try and lay out as much as you can from the one straight edge and square end.  I have done a lot of surveying in my life and baselines are the beginning of everything.  Most of the infrastructure we have in this country was laid out using Pythagorean Theorem,  two tapes, a 6&#039; folding rule with engineers scale and a hand level.  No lie.Locating that 1&quot; radius is easy.  You are working from the corner, so using your compass as a divider, put the steel point at the corner and use the pencil side to mark the edge and end to the right and left 1&quot; away from the corner.Now flip the compass, and hold the steel point to the edge where the marks were made.  At a right angle to the edges, draw a small arc 1&quot; in from the edge.  Where these two arcs meat is your radius point.Flip the compass around and put the steel point on the crossing arc lines you just drew. put the pencil on one of the marks you made on the edge or end, and draw the arc across the corner to the other one.For the partial circle, measure the section length that the circle makes into the board you are laying out.  Half the section length is your radius.Set a scrap next to your working board, that is the same thickness.  Set your Compass to the section length, and from each end of the section of the circle, swing some small arcs where you predict the two will cross.  That will be your radius point on the scrap.  Then turn the compass around and set the steel point in the  scraps &quot;RP&quot; and draw your arc from on end to the other on your work piece.In any layout, if the circle has a constant radius, you will have a beginning and end on the curve, and the RP will be where two equidistant arc lines cross that are the length which equals the section length of the radius, and are at a right angle to the curve at those points. The section itself is a straight line (line BC-EC (Beginning Curve-End Curve) drawn from where a radius begins, and ends.Bests,Rob]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bob,</p><p>Straight Edges and Squared Ends are a biggie for layout.  The board needs those made onto them  before further layout can begin.  Then try and lay out as much as you can from the one straight edge and square end.  I have done a lot of surveying in my life and baselines are the beginning of everything.  Most of the infrastructure we have in this country was laid out using Pythagorean Theorem,  two tapes, a 6&#8242; folding rule with engineers scale and a hand level.  No lie.</p><p>Locating that 1&quot; radius is easy.  You are working from the corner, so using your compass as a divider, put the steel point at the corner and use the pencil side to mark the edge and end to the right and left 1&quot; away from the corner.</p><p>Now flip the compass, and hold the steel point to the edge where the marks were made.  At a right angle to the edges, draw a small arc 1&quot; in from the edge.  Where these two arcs meat is your radius point.</p><p>Flip the compass around and put the steel point on the crossing arc lines you just drew. put the pencil on one of the marks you made on the edge or end, and draw the arc across the corner to the other one.</p><p>For the partial circle, measure the section length that the circle makes into the board you are laying out.  Half the section length is your radius.</p><p>Set a scrap next to your working board, that is the same thickness.  Set your Compass to the section length, and from each end of the section of the circle, swing some small arcs where you predict the two will cross.  That will be your radius point on the scrap.  Then turn the compass around and set the steel point in the  scraps &quot;RP&quot; and draw your arc from on end to the other on your work piece.</p><p>In any layout, if the circle has a constant radius, you will have a beginning and end on the curve, and the RP will be where two equidistant arc lines cross that are the length which equals the section length of the radius, and are at a right angle to the curve at those points. The section itself is a straight line (line BC-EC (Beginning Curve-End Curve) drawn from where a radius begins, and ends.</p><p>Bests,</p><p>Rob</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: David Chidester</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/article/exercise-in-layout-and-marking/comment-page-1#comment-13717</link> <dc:creator>David Chidester</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 22:07:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.popularwoodworking.com/editorsblog/Exercise+In+Layout+And+Marking.aspx#comment-13717</guid> <description><![CDATA[This is awesome Bob! I have to try it now. Keep it coming!]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is awesome Bob! I have to try it now. Keep it coming!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Hyrum Weller RN</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/article/exercise-in-layout-and-marking/comment-page-1#comment-13716</link> <dc:creator>Hyrum Weller RN</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 22:05:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.popularwoodworking.com/editorsblog/Exercise+In+Layout+And+Marking.aspx#comment-13716</guid> <description><![CDATA[Sorry for being ignorant: What is a &quot;gain,&quot; and what is its purpose? Does the mortise hole go all the way through? If not, how deep is it?
Old man newbie with perfectionist tendencies...]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for being ignorant: What is a &quot;gain,&quot; and what is its purpose? Does the mortise hole go all the way through? If not, how deep is it?<br
/> Old man newbie with perfectionist tendencies&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jeff</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/article/exercise-in-layout-and-marking/comment-page-1#comment-13715</link> <dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:28:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.popularwoodworking.com/editorsblog/Exercise+In+Layout+And+Marking.aspx#comment-13715</guid> <description><![CDATA[I have a fanatical distrust (mistrust?) of myself on layout and measuring. I check, recheck, look back at my drawing, do the math again, recheck, etc. until I am finally willing to make a cut. Then I hold my breath until the dry-fit because I am still afraid I screwed something up. Maybe some exercises like these will give me more confidence and help me move forward.
thanks]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a fanatical distrust (mistrust?) of myself on layout and measuring. I check, recheck, look back at my drawing, do the math again, recheck, etc. until I am finally willing to make a cut. Then I hold my breath until the dry-fit because I am still afraid I screwed something up. Maybe some exercises like these will give me more confidence and help me move forward.<br
/> thanks</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Youngwood</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/article/exercise-in-layout-and-marking/comment-page-1#comment-13714</link> <dc:creator>Youngwood</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:32:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.popularwoodworking.com/editorsblog/Exercise+In+Layout+And+Marking.aspx#comment-13714</guid> <description><![CDATA[I never bought into using the metric system either. But when I sit down and think aobut the simplicity of the metric system, I want to give it a try on my next ww project.. Come on inudulge us and explain whe the metric system is &quot;silly&quot;.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never bought into using the metric system either. But when I sit down and think aobut the simplicity of the metric system, I want to give it a try on my next ww project.. Come on inudulge us and explain whe the metric system is &quot;silly&quot;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jay Oyster</title><link>http://www.popularwoodworking.com/article/exercise-in-layout-and-marking/comment-page-1#comment-13713</link> <dc:creator>Jay Oyster</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:48:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.popularwoodworking.com/editorsblog/Exercise+In+Layout+And+Marking.aspx#comment-13713</guid> <description><![CDATA[This looks like a valuable skill-building exercise.It&#039;s strange that you don&#039;t want to use a measuring system that greatly reduces confusion and error. I can argue just as long and stubbornly for Metric units, and you won&#039;t win either.-J]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks like a valuable skill-building exercise.</p><p>It&#8217;s strange that you don&#8217;t want to use a measuring system that greatly reduces confusion and error. I can argue just as long and stubbornly for Metric units, and you won&#8217;t win either.</p><p>-J</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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